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		<title>Comment on The Nature and Purpose of this Blog by goatsandmonkeys</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy - 
A lot of things we can do.
I highly recommend your posting your question in No Quarter.  it&#039;s more established with hundreds of people who are as outraged as we are.
Here is the link
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

A blog that at first seemed promising and action-oriented is now drifting in a daze. I hope that it will quickly regain its equilibrium and deliver. It&#039;s called PUMA. 
http://blog.pumapac.org/
The format is a little disorganized right now, but should improve.

At this point, a lot of us are trying to figure how to proceed. 
 The media is owned by right wing money - so their reporters give it the slant that they are told.
I have never seen cable TV so aggressively dishonest.

There is ONE good NYT writer on our side - progressive economist Paul Krugman.  You can read his column on the web, and I think you will like him.
Also, on a positive note, a lot of well-off Hillary supporters are withholding donations to DNC.  As a result,  DNC is having trouble even financing the democratic convention.

Right now, I am writing emails to superdelegates, and to the media including
editors and writers of our newspaper. 
We are dropping cable TV altogether, because I don&#039;t like paying for news and getting info-mmercials.  I&#039;m not voting for Obama, and am thinking about dropping the democratic party, and going independent.

I was starting New Wave, devoted to creating  a new democratic party.
I decided to wait a bit and see how things play out before going forward.

But do visit No Quarter.  A lot of really nice, and very angry people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy &#8211;<br />
A lot of things we can do.<br />
I highly recommend your posting your question in No Quarter.  it&#8217;s more established with hundreds of people who are as outraged as we are.<br />
Here is the link<br />
<a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://noquarterusa.net/blog/</a></p>
<p>A blog that at first seemed promising and action-oriented is now drifting in a daze. I hope that it will quickly regain its equilibrium and deliver. It&#8217;s called PUMA.<br />
<a href="http://blog.pumapac.org/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.pumapac.org/</a><br />
The format is a little disorganized right now, but should improve.</p>
<p>At this point, a lot of us are trying to figure how to proceed.<br />
 The media is owned by right wing money &#8211; so their reporters give it the slant that they are told.<br />
I have never seen cable TV so aggressively dishonest.</p>
<p>There is ONE good NYT writer on our side &#8211; progressive economist Paul Krugman.  You can read his column on the web, and I think you will like him.<br />
Also, on a positive note, a lot of well-off Hillary supporters are withholding donations to DNC.  As a result,  DNC is having trouble even financing the democratic convention.</p>
<p>Right now, I am writing emails to superdelegates, and to the media including<br />
editors and writers of our newspaper.<br />
We are dropping cable TV altogether, because I don&#8217;t like paying for news and getting info-mmercials.  I&#8217;m not voting for Obama, and am thinking about dropping the democratic party, and going independent.</p>
<p>I was starting New Wave, devoted to creating  a new democratic party.<br />
I decided to wait a bit and see how things play out before going forward.</p>
<p>But do visit No Quarter.  A lot of really nice, and very angry people!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Nature and Purpose of this Blog by Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone please tell me how we expose Obama? Noone in the media seems to be listening. The DNC is in Obama&#039;s camp.  Why? How is it that some of us can see, and the others are blind as to who BO really is. We must keep this dangerous man and crook from becoming President of the United States. What do we do? Who do we write to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone please tell me how we expose Obama? Noone in the media seems to be listening. The DNC is in Obama&#8217;s camp.  Why? How is it that some of us can see, and the others are blind as to who BO really is. We must keep this dangerous man and crook from becoming President of the United States. What do we do? Who do we write to?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Nature and Purpose of this Blog by goatsandmonkeys</title>
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		<dc:creator>goatsandmonkeys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apologies to people who have posted.
I am new at this and haven&#039;t figured out how to make you visible!

At any rate, here a good post from No Quarter USA
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/09/hillary-and-the-popular-vote/

This is the beginning:

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in the Democratic primary of 2008. She won more votes than any candidate in US history in a primary, she won every major state in this nation, yadda yadda yadda, we all know this stuff now. We are all aware of these facts. Most Obamabots will never accept this and neither will their buddies over at CNN and MSNBO. It is the truth however. Democrats want her to be our nominee, and our president.
We are true Democrats. We are the down-to-earth, middle class, non-elitists that Barack Obama owes his loss to. We are not all upper-class white liberals looking for a progressive where there isn’t one, Barack Obama. We are however made up of all classes, races, ages, genders, sexual orientations, religions, shapes, sizes, etc. etc.

We embody what this party strives for, and hopes to create for the future. We, unlike many Obamabots, have a huge stake in who is nominated because we CANNOT afford an Obama nomination. We have no health insurance. We are dropping out of or are unable to attend a college due to costs. We are the ones most affected by pollution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apologies to people who have posted.<br />
I am new at this and haven&#8217;t figured out how to make you visible!</p>
<p>At any rate, here a good post from No Quarter USA<br />
<a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/09/hillary-and-the-popular-vote/" rel="nofollow">http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/09/hillary-and-the-popular-vote/</a></p>
<p>This is the beginning:</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in the Democratic primary of 2008. She won more votes than any candidate in US history in a primary, she won every major state in this nation, yadda yadda yadda, we all know this stuff now. We are all aware of these facts. Most Obamabots will never accept this and neither will their buddies over at CNN and MSNBO. It is the truth however. Democrats want her to be our nominee, and our president.<br />
We are true Democrats. We are the down-to-earth, middle class, non-elitists that Barack Obama owes his loss to. We are not all upper-class white liberals looking for a progressive where there isn’t one, Barack Obama. We are however made up of all classes, races, ages, genders, sexual orientations, religions, shapes, sizes, etc. etc.</p>
<p>We embody what this party strives for, and hopes to create for the future. We, unlike many Obamabots, have a huge stake in who is nominated because we CANNOT afford an Obama nomination. We have no health insurance. We are dropping out of or are unable to attend a college due to costs. We are the ones most affected by pollution.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Nature and Purpose of this Blog by Arius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only voice on the web was what Obama wanted you to hear and believe.&quot;


Actually myself and I&#039;m sure many, many others were out there, are still out there, supporting Senator Hillary Clinton and exposing Obama and his bots for what they really are.  Sometimes it just takes a little searching to find us.  It is sad imo that a few blogs manage to get all the attention when some of us have worked hard long hours trying to get the real info out there.. I started with the Bush administration and their corruptive behavior about 2 years ago...   So we are out there, it&#039;s just a matter of searching google 

:)

http://politicaldiscontent.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only voice on the web was what Obama wanted you to hear and believe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually myself and I&#8217;m sure many, many others were out there, are still out there, supporting Senator Hillary Clinton and exposing Obama and his bots for what they really are.  Sometimes it just takes a little searching to find us.  It is sad imo that a few blogs manage to get all the attention when some of us have worked hard long hours trying to get the real info out there.. I started with the Bush administration and their corruptive behavior about 2 years ago&#8230;   So we are out there, it&#8217;s just a matter of searching google </p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://politicaldiscontent.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://politicaldiscontent.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Nature and Purpose of this Blog by The Nature and Purpose of Her Blog : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Nature and Purpose of Her Blog : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Nature and Purpose of this Blog by goatsandmonkeys</title>
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		<dc:creator>goatsandmonkeys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comment in http://noquarterusa.net/
Comment by Susaninbosque &#124; 2008-06-08 14:19:00
We can wait and hope that the implosion we know is coming to Obama comes in time.
We can hope that he publically intimidates more folks than just Joe Lieberman in the Senate.
And if he slips through the net in August, we can always refuse to vote.
Not voting is a right as well.
What on earth makes anyone think that Obama will respect anyone’s rights any more than Bush does?
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. This is a basic psychological law. If you apply it, Hillary looks like the savior she is, McCain does not look all that bad and Obama looks like (if not evil) at least mal-intentioned bumbling idiot that he is.
I think that my vote is worth more than that. Obama will never win my vote but Mc Cain could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comment in <a href="http://noquarterusa.net/" rel="nofollow">http://noquarterusa.net/</a><br />
Comment by Susaninbosque | 2008-06-08 14:19:00<br />
We can wait and hope that the implosion we know is coming to Obama comes in time.<br />
We can hope that he publically intimidates more folks than just Joe Lieberman in the Senate.<br />
And if he slips through the net in August, we can always refuse to vote.<br />
Not voting is a right as well.<br />
What on earth makes anyone think that Obama will respect anyone’s rights any more than Bush does?<br />
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. This is a basic psychological law. If you apply it, Hillary looks like the savior she is, McCain does not look all that bad and Obama looks like (if not evil) at least mal-intentioned bumbling idiot that he is.<br />
I think that my vote is worth more than that. Obama will never win my vote but Mc Cain could.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Nature and Purpose of this Blog by goatsandmonkeys</title>
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		<dc:creator>goatsandmonkeys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, this blog is dedicated to providing links to democrats who want an alternative to the Obama echo chambers.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, this blog is dedicated to providing links to democrats who want an alternative to the Obama echo chambers.<br />
<a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://noquarterusa.net/blog/</a></p>
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